Hazard shield canine I wasn’t planning on going live but um This video has been making it rounds all Over the internet Um this abuse video so i wanted to kind Of comment on it because people asked me About it so i’m gonna give you Maybe a bit of a different take on it Um [Music] Just for clarity’s sake Uh the video i’m speaking about is this Video Of Um these two ladies I guess they have a kind of corso strung Between two lines And They’re hitting the kind of corso with a Dressage whip From the looks of it Um [Music] So You know and then the kind of the videos Like All i’ve seen is that like that the dog Is between two lines And they’re hitting the dog with a Dressage whip And um and then it’s like over So I mean It’s one of those ones hey guys how you
Doing it’s one of those ones where it’s Like Why Why is this happening And you know what i mean like and i Don’t mean why is this happening like Why like Heart ringing why I mean like why like what was the goal Of the training Right Um What was the goal of the training like Here’s the thing A lot of things A lot of things how do i feel about Pinning a dog it’s an absolutely useless Thing to do It’s pointless i don’t do it You know if it worked it would work Um Anyways let’s let’s start talking about About this so two lines Look you guys come to me Because i give here’s why i think My channel Has some following My channel doesn’t have following Because of my production quality that’s For freaking sure My channel doesn’t have a following Because you know I think i do like tons of how-to videos Or anything like that i think my channel
Has a following because i give you guys The truth Like i treat you guys like if i was Sitting in a room full of dog trainers Who like i kind of knew I talked to you guys the same way i Talked to them And we all kind of have that Uh we we kind of have that relationship That’s the relationship i have i think With the audiences is i talk to you guys I give you guys the real deal And i’m not giving you guys the the Bubble gum [ __ ] i don’t care if you Buy my stuff i don’t care if you come Train with me Um I i want to tell you guys kind of what It is so let’s talk about two lines okay Dogs strung between two lines why do People do this Two lines are used for aggressive dogs And the concept of using two lines is to Prevent the dog from getting to one Person or the other Right so typically when you have a dog Who Is aggressive towards the handler it Will Um try to get to the handler and listen If you’re holding the leash and the dog Comes for you especially if you’re a Little lady you’re not stopping that dog You know and if it’s a big enough strong
Enough dog even i’m not gonna be able to Probably stop that dog with the leash From getting to me So that’s why two lines are used so when I see a video where there’s a dog on two Lines they say oh this dog most likely Has handler aggression issues Right Um So that’s one piece of information now Handler aggression can come from two Places Right handler aggression is contrary to Popular belief A lot of it A lot of it is created through two Things okay Number one of course there’s always a Genetic propensity for that behavior not You can put a hundred dogs through the Same training And maybe 85 of them will kind of you Know let’s assume that the training is Relatively fair training 85 of them you Know will probably not have any issues And go through the training and you know Be productive with pressure so on and so Forth and then you’ll have 15 of them That will maybe offer some different um Responses to anything that they don’t Like whether it’s uh flight Freeze or fight okay And there are some people there are some Dogs that for sure
With you know very little reason will Certainly come up the line and you can See it right from puppyhood onwards Where the dog will come up the line and Um you know learns to basically Initially they usually start biting the Leash and then they graduate from biting The leash to biting the handler And they learned that this is how they Can deal with things that they don’t Like and before you jump to the Conclusion and assume what they don’t Like is something unfair what they don’t Like is like having their nails clipped Or going in their crate or being asked To sit or even just being restrained I’ve met many many dogs and i’ve trained Many many dogs that have learned that it Is okay to bite their handler if they Don’t like something and of course There’s most of those dogs it was pretty Easy to break them off that behavior but Then there are some dogs who were large Um strong and very committed to that Behavior to the extent that they had Hospitalized um or had come close to Hospitalizing members of their own Family So handler aggression can come in a wide Variety of um You know a wide variety of severity Levels and i’ve certainly had dogs and Seen dogs um you know it’s not fun to Watch somebody get attacked by a dog
That they’re handling i’ve certainly Seen it i saw uh you know i’ve seen Somebody i’ve seen multiple people Attacked by their own dock to the point Where they were hospitalized I’ve dealt with those dogs while they Tried to attack me and put me in the Hospital You know everybody’s talking a whole Heap of [ __ ] Until You’re on the other end of one of those Dogs and he’s coming for your life so to Speak okay you know until you’ve got a Dog that’s opened you up and now you’re Going to the hospital so i’ve i’ve had It from both ends and i’ve dealt with it From both ends so whenever i see a Handler aggressive dog You know that’s that’s definitely a Piece of information that Is something that i take into Consideration i’ll tell you this I’m gonna tell you this before i get Into that video From my perspective If a dog comes for me I will do literally anything To him to get him to stop attacking me And knee thing I don’t like going to the hospital i Don’t like getting bit If he tries to bite me He’s going to find out that i don’t like
That and he’s also going to find out From a productive training perspective That it’s a really horrific Idea to bite me Horrific i don’t care what i’m asking Him to do you don’t want to lie down I don’t care you’re not going to bite me You don’t wanna you don’t like it that I’m preventing you from attacking that Dog over there i don’t care you’re not Gonna bite me you don’t like that i’m Cutting your nails Try to bite me see what happens it is Bad I make it deliberately a horrific Experience for the dog Otherwise the dog is going to keep going Back to that behavior and of course Usually by the time i’m dealing with the Dog he’s had success in that behavior The thing he didn’t like let’s say they Were cutting his nails so he bit them And they stopped cutting his nails he’s Had success there now Right he wanted to go after the other Dog the handlers were holding him back And finally he just got so frustrated he Turned around redirected on the handler And he got his mouth on something and at Least he got to do something with all That frustration and energy So he’s had success in those behaviors And he’s got positive reinforcement out Of those behaviors so now i’m dealing
With him Right i’m picking up the slack there and And i’m finding i’m i’m now i’m on the Other end of it and i have It’s not for for the sake of my ego Right these people are paying me i’ve Got to put an end to this behavior Otherwise most likely especially for the Bigger dogs they’re getting put down if Somebody brings me a kind of corso and They say hey that this kind of course Has bitten me a couple of times and like You know i don’t know what to do Uh if he bites me again i think i’m Gonna have to put him down This Is This is um a very normal thing that i Deal with on a regular basis a lot of These bigger dogs right like it’s this Is the last stop On the road And You can talk about clever training all You like and i see some of you it’s Never okay to hit Get bit a few times Get bit a few times look at your insides See what that dog is capable of doing to Something else or to somebody else And then kind of Come with that energy here’s the deal I’ll tell you this if you give me the Choice of getting punched in the head
Or having a dog latch onto my forearm Guess what i’m picking Every single time It is not going to be a question Right so I kind of look at it like that now let’s Talk about it from a per uh a Professional training perspective Right Is it productive Is it protect what what what is like What do you get out of that right like What’s what’s the The potential side effects of you know Let’s say the dog tries to bite me and i Crack him in the head Right like what what are the productive What can you get out of that from a Training perspective Well where does that fall like if we’re Looking at the four four quadrants of Operant conditioning Where does that fall Now some of you may already know the Answer to this Right Um Bite them back they are pack animals Yeah no um i don’t i can’t bite them Because i don’t have these big strong Teeth um here look if the dog If if i if you hit a dog I assume you’re trying to deliver Positive punishment
Right You’re trying to deliver positive Punishment right like that’s basically What it is what does what is the Definition of positive punishment Positive punishment is the application Of an aversive consequence to a specific Behavioral contingency so let’s say the Problem is Under certain circumstances you can name Whatever circumstances they are he has Learned that biting is a solution to his Problems So what am i going to do Well the positive only trainer would say I’m going to deconflict and i’m going to Use a lot of food and blah blah blah and I’m going to try to you know Remove the conflict from this situation And under certain circumstances that Actually might work But 95 of the time it doesn’t work Because a lot of the time what the Handler needs the dog to do is actually Something that Is important like cutting his nails or Grooming him like i got a dog right now He’ll bite you over being bathed and Groomed And he’s big and he’s strong and when he Comes for you he comes high he goes for The face So What
What’s the Is it fair that they’re trying to groom Him of course it’s fair Like he he doesn’t like being groomed But he’s learned that the solution to Being groomed is to come up and you know Jump up and try to bite the face and Bite the upper body of the handler Right like That’s not okay That’s really not okay and if it Persists he’s going to get the blue Juice Now i tell you this if he comes up on me I’m not Um I’m not i have no problem cracking him In the head i literally don’t Right and that’s the big thing that’s That’s the things like because for me it Wouldn’t just be oh I don’t like you that’s why i’m doing it It would be no i’m delivering positive Punishment to you Right you come up high and you try to Bite me in the face whack It is what it is you’re not biting me in The face and you’re gonna find out it’s A really bad idea to do that Okay Now somebody might say well that’s you Should use this device or you should use That device What’s the difference
What’s the difference if i have a slip Lead on the dog and he comes high from My face and i choke him What’s the difference both of them are An aversive consequence to a specific Behavioral contingency now you might Argue that for that dog it is more Productive to do the slip lead or to do The e-collar or to whatever whatever You’re using the bonker or whatever Device you’re using to to to punish the Dog This is a device too This device can pet the dog can feed the Dog And can punish the dog Right and nobody will talk about that You get a bunch of professional trainers In a room like serious ones i’m not Talking like you know cookie trainers I’m talking like real trainers that Actually train dogs and and and train Working dogs and train strong dogs They have no problem delivering Punishment With in every car in every context with Every tool available to them because Sometimes you don’t have your magic tool Sometimes you don’t have your magic Collar on the dock sometimes you don’t Have your e-collar or your your slip Lead or whatever it is You need to stop outsourcing or always Relying on devices to outsource your
Punishment sometimes literally sometimes All you have is your hands Right Now no it’s not a risk for brain damage Their skulls are significantly Their skulls are very hard Now You know Have you ever had a dog headbutt you by Like just like anywhere on your body Um No It’s it’s very painful like their their Heads are significantly harder than our Heads um Now here’s the thing Let’s talk about that video because we Kind of got into talking about hitting Docks in general and when How it would where would fall on the you Know operant conditioning Um stamp thank you where it would fall On the operant conditioning um You know quadrants And all that type of stuff how you would Actually you know use it in training so That video here’s my problem with that Video Why was that dog between two lines And what were they trying to accomplish I don’t know I’m only seeing a few seconds of the Video all i saw literally i mean maybe There’s a longer video available and
Maybe some of you saw it i did not see That All i saw was a dot between two lines Okay so my initial assumption is okay It’s handler aggressive okay Um and then Uh The other thing that i saw was them Hitting the dog with the dressage whip And then the video cut So Why what’s going on there right now I’ll tell you this if the dog was Handler aggressive If the dog was hammer aggressive What they were doing didn’t look Productive to fix it Right If the dog was handler aggressive what They were doing did not look productive It’s just that simple right so if you’re Going to deliver i don’t I’m not lazy fair about it Anything you do whether you’re punishing A human being whether you’re punishing An animal Okay It has to be for a good reason of course Um it should be a thought out Thing where you have an intent to fix The actual problem Right It’s one of those kind of things where It’s like to me it didn’t look like it
Was well thought out and it didn’t look Like they were going to do something but I’m going to tell you this Not too long ago and we kind of talked About it okay Um There was a video that came out Of a bunch Of it was it was from finland okay and There were a bunch of these Um there was basically like a video From like i think a couple working Seminars or something and it was Basically a whole bunch of videos of um Like it was like a bunch it was like a Montage Hitting kicking Hitting the cranking on the e-collar you Know whacking the dog with a whip Whatever Almost all the trainers in those videos Are top tier working dog trainers I’m not gonna say any names I’m not gonna you know you guys i’m sure Can find out for yourself if you want And many of those trainers i think are Fantastic dog trainers and what happened Was some crazy animal rights activists Basically put a secret camera up there They were dealing with you know through All the training some of the dogs They’re dealing with are handler Aggressive some of the dogs they’re Dealing with you know um you know we’re
Dangerous And You know they were correcting the dogs In a variety of ways for a variety of Reasons And what happened was someone basically Clipped all the corrections removed the Before and removed the after And they put it all together in this Montage where it just looks like Literally abuse is happening look if you Watch those dogs That were in that video having all this Horrible stuff happening to them many of Those stocks are competing in high Levels Many of those dogs If you see them Working with the handler or even Directly after the correction look Fantastic their tails are wagging They’re normal Because the correction to them made Sense they understood why it happened And they understood how they could avoid It in the future And it made sense Many like again those A lot of those people that were caught In that video quote unquote cot Um You know are our fantastic dog trainers And have achieved more in dog training Than most people on the internet
Commenting ever will or can You know it’s funny one of those guys is In a viral video Uh have you guys seen this viral video Of this german shepherd um he’s doing an Igp3 routine and the handler sends him For the sendo right the handler sends Him for the send out the dog takes off Like a rocket down the field the handler Yells plots and the dog does a skidding Plots or skidding down on the field this Video was all over facebook millions and Millions of views Right That handler with that dog making that Fantastic top level some of the best in The world obedience Was one of the people in the in those Videos He’s a fantastic handler he’s a Fantastic trainer he’s a world level guy You know what i mean So Anything clipped out of context Immediately i’m suspicious of it why What is this where is this coming from Now i’ll tell you this Again what i saw in the video i didn’t Like i didn’t like it because it didn’t Look productive I got no problem putting a dog between Two lines I got no problem if the dog’s coming for You
To slip him right for sure absolutely Why the hell not you know We want to make it really bad that the Dog does those things we want the dog to Not be successful in that specific Behavior and learn that it’s bad i fixed Many handler aggressive dogs That attack the handlers You know for a variety of reasons By Creating a very Bad experience for the dog when it Offers that behavior Here’s the other side of It here’s the other side of it There are things that you can do that Are unfair to the dog That will make the dog attack you And would make any reasonable Person or animal attack you And many people do that Many people do that to their dog in the Handling whether it’s accidentally or on Purpose If you’re doing things to the dog That are unfair and unreasonable and Creating a situation where the dog is Literally like a rat trapped in a corner Who has no choice but to Either kind of submit to this bad Experience or to fight with You then yes you’re being abusive The animal doesn’t know the animal Doesn’t understand you’ve put the animal
In a bad in his mind anyways in a Situation that there’s no way out And His his only choice in his mind is to Attack you So a lot of handler not a lot A good amount of handler aggression is Avoidable with good handling in the First place and with clear handling in The first place But i will say the vast majority of the Dogs that i have met that offer this Type of behavior in any kind of serious Way Offered it very young they showed the Behavior very young and of course when It’s very young it’s not that serious But as the dog grew it become worse Became worse and worse and worse and 95 Of the time it was over stuff like what We talked about grooming Nails Restraining the dog from going after Other people or other dogs that kind of Stuff So If you can avoid with half decent Handling the dog being aggressive in the First place and you’re doing things Deliberately to the dog That caused the dog to be aggressive and They don’t make sense for sure it’s Abusive Right now here’s the thing people are
Saying she laughed Um I i didn’t see that but if she did That’s messed up You certainly like you know when you Punish When you punish an animal like that When you do that to an animal Or a person Right for Something even if it you know in your Mind it made sense and you had a plan And everything was all part of the plan It’s not a funny thing It’s a it’s a terrible thing you know It’s it’s not a fun it’s kind of like a Vet right like i’ve had to punish dogs In many different ways for many Different behaviors Okay Um It wasn’t funny It isn’t pleasant it isn’t enjoyable In fact i’ll tell you this i’m pretty Um I don’t like it I don’t like it in any capacity and and To the extent now where if i know that It’s that kind of dog um You know i i think long and hard before Taking it on Because it has it takes a toll on you It takes a toll on you it’s not a Pleasant thing to do right it’s like a
Vet that maybe or a doctor in an in an Army hospital you’re you’re you know You’re dealing with all these casualties And you have to cut off arms and cut off Legs and you’re saving people’s lives But you got to do this or maybe you’re a Vet and you’re doing the same thing You’re dealing with all these accident Victims or whatever it is You know you have to do all these kind Of very difficult surgeries to fix the Problem Um and it’s it’s for the betterment of Of everyone involved But for sure it would take a toll on you Right so severe punishment Takes a toll On both the person delivering the Punishment and of course The individual or entity receiving the Punishment When you’re working with serious Behavioral cases here’s the thing I know a lot of you haven’t done it Um [Music] Especially with the big big big dogs That are capable of really putting a lot Of damage on you or especially the ones That have severely damaged somebody in The past like you know He sent the handler to the hospital You’re doing these things with the dog You’re working the dog you’re trying to
Get the dog through all these various Things like okay he doesn’t like having His neck touched okay well kind of Important to be able to touch his neck Okay we’re going to touch his neck we’re Going to desensitize him to the neck We’re going to do the food we’re going To do all this type of stuff At any point in that process if you’re Not careful if you’re not paying Attention If you slip The potential of you going to the Hospital is very real and very present Now Think about doing that month in and Month out Okay Now you’re like okay you know i’m doing This and if he comes for me here’s what I’m gonna do you know i’m gonna use the Slip lead or you know i’m you know i’m Gonna whack him upside the head whatever Right this is my plan Listen as mike tyson famously said once Um everybody’s got a plan until they get Punched in the face And dog training In some time in some cases is no Different Right sometimes you get as a dog trainer Figuratively Punched or bit in the face okay Um
And you can have all the plans you want To have sometimes stuff goes south as You guys have seen on my channel you Know Many of my dogs a couple of my dog Trainers i shouldn’t say many but a few Of my dog trainers have ended up in Hospital I’ve ended up in the hospital you know Half recently lost his thumb or part of His thumb It’s no joke working with some of these Dogs And you know When you’re dealing with the people Don’t get it they really don’t they Really don’t like when you’re dealing With something that can do that kind of Damage to you Um It it’s a different kind of thing and Especially when you’re doing it For okay hey we got this dog for six Weeks And there’s a potential within that six Week period When we’re working them you know three Times a day at some point in that long Stretch He might come He might come and and And he probably not he might he most Likely will come several times Throughout that whole process
And you’ve got to be ready Not just to avoid bad things happening To you because when the dog comes to Bite you It’s it’s so important not only that you Stop yourself from getting big but that You teach him he must not do this Otherwise he’s just gonna keep coming Just stopping him isn’t enough you have To continually punish that behavior You really really do Because Again these are the dogs that we’re Dealing with that have learned That they can do this You Must you must When you’re dealing with this type of Dog you must Set them up for this behavior or when They offer this behavior you must make It horrendous that they did it Otherwise they will do it again and Again and again all right Um So yeah like that’s I’m coming at it from that angle now Again Laughing Like nothing in that video like you guys Were saying she was laughing i didn’t See it Nothing in that video Um is a laughing thing
I i again so let’s talk about the Dressage whip quickly why Okay so here’s why i don’t like a Dressage whip okay Other than you know for the obvious Reason that it’s inflicting pain it’s Inflicting pain Not productive Not productive with that kind of corso Right like for most dogs like that when You’re doing that It’s not going to create a suppression Yeah the dog was between two lines so in That instant you know the dog looks Suppressed Um dressage whips are thin and they’re Whippy it’s going to create a stinging Sensation Generally dealing with any of those Breeds If you’re trying to punish that dog You don’t want to sting that dog in any Capacity Because it’s generally not gonna be a Punishment For that dog it’s actually going to Activate that dog and that dog gonna Come for you like like a grizzly bear You know with a with a thorn in his paw It’s not going to be a good idea it’s Not very productive from a punishment Perspective i’ve I would not use a dressage whip To to punish that dog and again it
Wasn’t clear to me what they were doing Right Here’s the thing I know a lot of people Says that you know those uh women were Just i’m not saying that i don’t know Them right I’m just saying i don’t know the whole Story now i wouldn’t be shocked if i Learned the whole story and it was a bad Story and what they were doing didn’t Make sense as it looks like it doesn’t Make sense in the video but i don’t like Videos out of context show me what’s Happening before and show me what’s Happening after Why is it just a few seconds Like why That’s That’s that’s weird to me it’s like just Show the whole thing like i mean i Assume the whole thing must be pretty Awful right so show the whole thing Um Now Yeah so In the broader sense Is hitting a dog ever okay It’s a form of punishment and if you Believe in punishment Right as an effective A Tool in a trainer’s toolbox or in a Person’s toolbox right
Um [Music] I don’t see how you couldn’t under Certain certain circumstances Understand why and how it could be used In a productive way Um But in that video yeah that’s a bad Looking video there ain’t no two ways About that that video is It’s a rough video Um There’s multiple videos try to watch the Others I I don’t want to watch to be honest i Don’t want to watch them I i’m just talking about this because People were blowing me up about it and Sending me messages about it and stuff Like this Um [Music] But look like Look i know there are some sadistic People out there but here’s my opinion On most um Here’s my opinion on most most you know Claims of abuse i don’t in my experience Vast majority people are not sadistic And the vast majority people do not want To hurt their dog or don’t enjoy Inflicting harm on an animal needlessly So i always kind of take everything with
A grain of salt when it comes to that But there are certainly people that do Things a out of frustration Or be Um Out of ignorance or see Out of sadism there are sadistic people Out there that do enjoy Inflicting harm on something that is Helpless be it a child Or an animal Or a weaker human being a weaker adult There are people like that for sure i Don’t think there is as many As and listen i’ve seen some pretty Nasty things both on the human side and The animal side i don’t think there’s as Many as people would like You know you to believe or if you were On social media you might believe but There are people like that I’m not saying that these are those People you i mean you a fair bit of People do think that these are those People Um Yeah What about hanging a dog I’ve seen it done i’m not a fan what’s Your opinion Um [Music] By hanging a dog i assume you mean Lifting a dog
Up on a slip lead If a dog is Trying to attack you Handler aggression is the go-to it is The best way to fix handler aggression Or to prevent handler aggression You try to come for me Up you go and you wait up there until You’ve decided that you’re not trying to Kill me anymore and then down you go Now the vast majority of dogs don’t need That okay but we’re talking about Extreme cases Um Yeah i’ve seen the helicopter absolutely Now look again What are we talking about i don’t like Talk about anything talk about look Have you seen someone punch a dog in the Head have you seen someone choke a dog I’ve seen it all Okay i’ve seen a lot of stuff Right [Music] Me about what’s going on and why it’s Happening Right Listen is a dog trying to bite his Handler is the dog presenting An imminent danger to Other people and himself Is the dog in such a behavioral state That if his behavior does not get Adjusted
Um He’s going to get put down Are those things the Case okay Well that’s one thing Oh is the dog not sitting and that’s why He’s getting helicoptered or kicked or What Well yeah that’s a whole different thing That’s that’s not okay for sure Yeah small closed paces suck they’ve Ever have you ever had a dog try to Attack you in a 4×4 kennel I have It’s not fun It’s not fun i have i’ve certainly dealt With that um you know uh you know you’re In there or you’re trying to get his Equipment off or you’re trying to put Some equipment on and up he comes I had a staff member a couple years ago End up in the hospital because a dog Attacked him in the kennel it was pretty Bad You know it’s it’s no joke right Um You know it’s it’s I find it a lot i don’t like absolutes It’s never okay What’s never okay under what Circumstances how many of these types of Dogs have you fixed Right are we talking about I’ll tell you this you know i’ve dealt
Like i said before i’ve dealt with Multiple dogs that Exhibit severe Aggressive behavior that make them a Danger to themselves and to other people And They’re literally Going to be put down if it doesn’t get Fixed and in some cases it doesn’t get Fixed and the dog gets the blue juice Have you ever done that have you ever Taken the dog to the vet And watched them put the needle in the Dog and watched that dog go to sleep for The last time and they do that big Breath And then they’re dead and they’re gone Have you ever seen that I’ve seen that And I don’t care how many Like what the dog’s done or what type of Dog it is That stuff stays with you That stuff stays with you And there are many dogs that have been Brought to me where that’s literally the Option Right Get it fixed or else And in many cases we’ve been successful In some cases we haven’t been For a variety of reasons But in many of the cases where we were
Successful we used very strong Punishment To create an aversive experience around Specific behaviors that dog was Predisposed towards offering that Presented a safety hazard To the people around the dog So I’m going to tell you this it’s not Worth the money dealing with those types Of dogs People talking about money it ain’t Worth the money i don’t like dealing With those types of dogs that much Anymore Because it does it takes a toll on you It takes a toll on you yes there’s Success to be had but guess what Sometimes it’s not success Um there’s no sometimes it’s just It’s it’s a grind and it’s dangerous and It’s it’s a little bit depressing Sometimes Right Um So yeah you know i wanted to give you Guys maybe a different outlook instead Of kind of jumping on the whole oh it’s All you know Abuse abuse abuse there’s plenty of People that are going to do that and do That listen when all those famous world Level trainers Got caught
You know on that video Uh you know Doing all those corrections that were Clipped out of context Right and some of that was pretty stop Like rough like you know a little kick a Little whack outside the head with a With a closed fist or something like This you know yanking and cranking and What all that kind of [ __ ] that they Were doing Right A lot of people that I know for a fact train Like that In igp were commenting about how Terrible it was a lot of people that Went to those guys seminar Seminars you know or idolize those guys Like oh wow like you know i’ve never Achieved those things that they’ve Achieved with those dogs You know Strong dogs That are highly motivated And very intense Right and that doesn’t just fall onto The working dog side it can fall onto Any side of things right Um Are capable of quite a lot of damage And sometimes it takes a lot to break Them of a specific behavior a lot more Than what the average person who doesn’t
Train dogs for a living and hasn’t seen A lot of dogs would think or believe or Understand A lot of people trash those guys Those guys some of those guys are still Getting flack for that stuff that was in That video Right and you could say i don’t agree With that i could have done that better Or whatever whatever listen like i said Quite a few of those guys are on pretty High levels when it comes to training Um And a lot of people that were trashing Them i watched the people trashing them On the internet i’m like bro I’ve seen your dog at the seminar i know What you do Why are you on here saying all that Stuff You Know there’s there’s a lot of there’s a Lot of hypocrisy in this business and I’m not a hypocrite And look what don’t get it twisted this Live stream is gonna cost me some money It’s gonna cost me some money but I’m i’m going to give you guys the Straight goods All right and i’m going to give you my Opinion i’m sure there’s many people That have a different opinion and that’s Fine You know it is what it is
Um See if there’s any interesting Questions here I’m homeless and need a man-stopper Protection dog and have a three-year Borbo mix with a hip dysplasia he Doesn’t have protection drive but scares People My friend If you’re homeless And you have a dog And it sounds like he’s in a bad place Because he has hip dysplasia Why wouldn’t i mean why wouldn’t you try To i would if i was you i would say look We’re both in a bad place my friend Let’s let’s progress forward in life Together and see if we can get to a Better place That’s what i do i wouldn’t worry about Getting a man stopper protection dog i Would say you know what this is my dog God gave him to me we’re both in a rough Place um Let’s both get to a better place Together You know That that was that’s my opinion and i i Do hope my friend urban sasquatch i hope I hope you uh You do get to a better place and i hope Your dog gets to a better place too Um Let’s see
Any other questions No Well there’s a bunch but none of them Are really kind of Most of the behavior was created by the Human you don’t know that Austin you don’t know that you don’t Know the dog you don’t know what’s Happening there’s a lot of behaviors That i’ve seen from very young dogs From puppies that i can tell If left unchecked Gonna turn into some pretty terrible Behavior that makes the dog quite Dangerous a lot of these behaviors have A genetic predisposition attached to it A lot of them do right like you guys Don’t believe me because you haven’t Seen the dogs i’ve seen you haven’t like I’ve produced a lot of dogs i’ve read a Lot of dogs I’ve trained a lot of dogs from puppy All the way to the top Of like that by the top i mean to like You know older right to the to their Upper age Um A lot of these behaviors like the hand Like the severe behaviors i’m not Talking bratty behaviors bratty Behaviors no one’s going to the hospital Generally it’s just bratty behavior it’s Annoying you know it can make your life Difficult but it’s not
It’s not dangerous Most of the dangerous dogs i’ve met There’s a big genetic component to their Behavior And nine times out of ten what would Have curbed that behavior is actually Significant meaningful punishment that Put inhibition on that behavior as a Puppy i’ll give you an example so i’ve Seen a lot of like Um So like for instance this uh My good friend kepler right like this uh Black russian terrier that we’re dealing With now is five years old and he has The issues with being touched and so on And so forth This is a dog you know i guarantee you He was showing this behavior when he was A baby now if the handlers had known What they were doing And they had disciplined him severely For it and said no dude this is what’s Happening you’re getting your hair done You’re getting you know bathed and Brushed and your nails are going to be Done and we’re going to put the collars On you and we’re going to take them off Of you and you’re going to go in your Crate all these things are happening and If you fool around there’s going to be a Significant consequence for you every Single time and you’re not going to be Successful probably by the time he was
Five years old it would be a Significantly different picture i see This all the time with the young working Dogs that i deal with you know My puppies for instance sometimes i’ll See it oh He’s going to be the kind of dog he’ll Bite somebody over his toy if i don’t Bring him along properly Now bringing him along properly can Include deconflicting The behavior by showing him that i’m a Partner in play but oftentimes listen They’ll experiment at some point with Biting you Right but they’re babies so it’s kind of A lot easier to deal with So It’s one of those things um Listen guys kohler is old school And at the time it was revolutionary but It’s not so useful now i don’t want you Guys to watch this video and say i’m Going to go out and whack my dog upside The head and stuff don’t do that Don’t do that Right because you have to If you’re rewarding a dog or you’re Punishing a dog you have to understand The concept of timing and if you don’t Understand the concept of timing you Don’t understand how to make whatever it Is you’re doing be it a positive Reinforcement or a positive punishment
Mean something to the dog you’re not Going to be productive so don’t do any Don’t do it right Um Well what’s a human problem right like You’re saying this is still a human Problem because they didn’t correct the Dog well a lot of people just don’t know How to deal with that there are dogs That are user friendly and there are Dogs that are not right And there are and usually these types of Dogs are very not user friendly unless You really know what you’re doing You’re not going to most trainers can’t Help these dogs most trainers don’t know How to deal with these dogs You know [Music] Um Hey has what’s your thoughts on having Two igp dogs we’re looking to get Another pup She’s coming from a champion pedigree so She would have potential to be another Trial dog Well john i would say this um You know you shouldn’t i don’t care About pedigrees you know if you trust The parents and So on and so forth Uh then you know take a risk on the Puppy but properties are always a Crapshoot you never know you know if
You’re gonna have two igp dogs it’s a Lot of work i’ve got one and a half igp Dogs right now i always call i joke About that because i’m really only Putting about half the time into one of The dogs and the all my time and the Other one because That’s just what i’ve got available to Me and what i’ve got in me So i hope i kind of Gave you guys maybe a little bit of a Different take You know when you’ve trained enough and This isn’t just based on stuff that like I’ve done I’ve been in a lot of different training Circles and a lot of different seen a Lot of different training And and serious kind of training not Cookies training right and um It’s one of those things where you know You see a lot of different stuff and you Get a lot of different perspectives and You kind of see what works and what Doesn’t work Um There are times that any color Correction works and there are times it Is very unproductive there is A time When using your hand can work and there Are times when it’s very unproductive Anything in the right context with the Right timing can be effective
Right and there’s nothing that has like An inherent wrongness associated with it And that’s that’s the thing like I guess there are some things but like In general like people kind of like okay E-collar correction is okay but hand is Bad why Why Give give a good reason because you feel Icky about one but the other one makes You feel good because you’re pushing the Button and you don’t have a direct Association you know Between what’s happening and and and What what you’re doing what’s happening Why You know positive punishment positive Punishment positive reward uh positive Reinforcements positive reinforcement Negative reinforcements negative Reinforcement Right like That what you’re doing and how it’s Received It doesn’t change based on like what You’re using to get to it right Have i ever tried charging the stem as a Precursor to of course Take my if you take my um My competition obedience course i use The e-collar a lot like that if you Watch me train my competition dog You see how i use the e-collar my E-collar
Charges them up it doesn’t suppress him Right How do i handle owners who don’t like to Punish the dog i give them Clear and You know i give them clear Options Here’s what you can do to deal with this Behavior Here are things that you can do to Effectively punish this behavior and Here’s how you would do it If you choose not to do this This is the probable result up to you I can’t i can’t do it for you but here’s What you need to do Right Um Okay guys i think that’s it um either Way you know Yeah i think she’s in a lot of trouble Yeah she’s in a lot of trouble for sure She is like even if there was a good Reason that clip in and of itself is Gonna be bad for her like i wouldn’t be Surprised if she gets charged and so on And so forth Um [Music] Yeah like it it’s it’s bad and you know Of course laughing if that’s what she Was doing terrible like you You know There’s
It’s not good it’s not good and even Let’s just say in some hypothetical Context what she was doing was justified Um [Music] Let’s just say that It’s bad like it’s still Unpleasant even if even if it even if Under some circumstance it was Hypothetically justified it’s still not Good it’s still not It might be good i guess in like the Long run but it’s still unpleasant and It’s still something that should be Viewed Like it’s a very somber thing just like Somebody says hey you know i got breast Cancer um in order to save my life They’re gonna cut my breasts off it’s Not like a funny thing it’s like Man that sucks sucks to have to do that Right Okay guys Um Yeah so it sounds like some people are Saying that there’s a history there i Don’t know i don’t know so If there is then it is what it is Yeah Um Yeah if she was throwing a dog on the Floor as a down no that’s Again it’s unproductive right like when You’re using pressure on a dog or a
Person or a horse or anything It should make sense if it doesn’t make Sense There’s a problem absolutely Either way you know Yeah I think we talked enough about it I go i hope you guys all have a good Weekend Um Take your dogs for a walk have fun You know do some stuff Uh See y’all later