In this dog training video, I react to Beckman’s Dog Training response to positive reinforcement dog training, the alpha/dominance myth in dog training, and the “purely positive” dog training world.
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It has been a while since I did a dog Trainer reacts video nevertheless I am Coming out of the Grave for a what I Think is a very meaningful conversation I recently found this video by Joel Beckman he and I take stylistically very Different choices when it comes to Training dogs nevertheless when I was Listening to his video there were a lot Of arguments that he made that I Wholeheartedly agree with and that he’s Absolutely correct with where I think I Can contribute to the discussion is in Some of his analyzes of what is Scientific fact versus what is opinion I Don’t believe that he does a very good Job in that video of differentiating Between scientific literature and what Is his interpretation or what is the Opinion of that literature and in fact He does tend to attack the Academia and I think that many of those attacks are Justified I think that many of the Attacks that he makes makes sense and They’re credible and also I’d like to Contribute to them and show how there’s Another flip side that’s not being Mentioned as well so if you’re new here Hello my name is Jenna I’m a Professional dog trainer I work Exclusively with dogs facing anxiety and The behavioral consequences of anxiety Aggression reactivity separation anxiety Stereotypes and other behavioral
Complications that come out of an Anxiety disorder the other thing you Need to know about me going in is that I Do take a very nerdier approach to dog Training I like to examine scientific Research we have an entire series on my Channel called science explained I Understand that looking at the Scientific literature is not everybody’s Jam I totally get that and also I don’t Think that that means that we can’t find Common Ground I don’t think that that Means that this video can’t be Supportive for you so without further Ado let’s get into it [Music] Foreign [Music] I got one today and I get this is it’s Not a terrible comment it just Encompasses What the POS purely positive Reinforcement trainers think I don’t Believe that he believes that we all Identify as purely positive in fact Positive reinforcement comes from offer And conditioning it’s one of four Quadrants and it is impossible to exist Purely in one quadrant life doesn’t Exist in one box and I think he knows This within our culture we do not Identify as purely positive and I’m sure He knows this okay so this is from cat Rogers okay it’s since been deleted but
I’m going to talk you through this Comment and we’re going to go over some Things so She says this is completely disgusting And the entire philosophy of this Trainer is wrong actual behaviorist and Certified trainers through Cpdt is what it’s called it’s called It’s like certified pet dog trainers Association okay use people like this is An example of what not to do at national Conferences so Here’s what I think we should do have me There and let’s discuss it have me on up There with your best expert and let’s Talk about this all right show the video To All the Cairns in the audience and They’re all Karen’s all the purely Positive folks who go to all these Conferences and read these all these Books they’re all single white childless Women okay and none of those are bad you Can be all those things but don’t act Like you know everything And shame other people if you haven’t Gone through The raising a child process and none of Them have they’re they’re all the same People they don’t understand discipline And love and they think that their dogs Are their children and there’s no rules And everything’s positive they don’t Understand life okay so a couple of Things on this he’s absolutely correct
That the positive reinforcement majority Are white women that are older than Millennials let’s put it that way 100 True and in fact when I get around some Of my peers that are in the same age Group as I am and we are collaborating On dog training methods and conferences And whatever we talk about the fact that Our culture is dominated by Older white women we need more diversity That said the idea that one needs to be A parent in order to understand the Concepts of love and discipline I take Issue with that if hypothetically one Was incapable of having children should That mean that they are not also able to Teach others how to live with a dog and Have a relationship with a dog I take Issue with the implication that if I’m Not able to have children I’m also not Able to make a career out of Transferring my skill of understanding Dogs to others there’s a lot of Implications there that said the Professional you know he was saying like Take me to the conference and put me up There with your best expert my friend we Have several experts and not all of them Are white women in fact many of the Experts are men quite frankly and I Think that there’s a lot of reasons why That is primarily it’s the way the Outside Society outside of dog training Views men and their power so a lot of
The experts that you’re speaking about Are not even women ironically in our World we have Michael shakashi we have Dr Chris pockel we have Jim Crosby we Have Ken McCourt all of whom are Wonderful brains and they’re Men by the Way the same can be true about his Ecosystem as well when we’re thinking About who is leading the sphere of Aversive or Alpha pack or balanced Training we all know the popular YouTube Channels the popular TV shows are men And their Macho men generally speaking And that is not a dog training issue That is not a dog training cultural Issue that is a bigger scale issue that Speaks and reflects more on how our Society on the whole views men and their Ability to lead so again the same Stereotypes that he is imposing on the Positive reinforcement Community we can Double down and reverse back on him and Say other stereotypes can also equally Exist in your group she doesn’t Understand life she’s basically saying Oh we use people like you at our annual Conferences by the way Conference where they took a Or methods that I’ve never seen that I’m not saying it Never has I’ve personally been to many Different academic events that’s never Happened in any of the events I’ve been To dominance theory has been widely
Discredited all the purely positive Folks comment and they say it’s been Widely discredited and almost not every Time but I’ll occasionally go and I’ll Type in dominance Theory and I do it Fairly often and I don’t see where it’s Discredited and they go yeah the guy who Who coined the phrase He he took it back and I go okay great How do I find this where do I find this Guy saying that it’s actually not true The guy who originally started wrote a Book about it years ago they say He took it back I can’t find it anywhere I don’t know who this guy is okay so by The way I’ve linked it in the Description box below you can check it Out but there’s a couple things on this The reason you can’t find the person who Took back dominance theories because he Didn’t take back dominance there he took Back Alpha Theory there’s a big Difference so let’s break this down the Guy that you’re asking about his name is David Meck and he wrote a book in the 1970s examining Alpha Behavior what he Called at the time Alpha behavior in a Pack of wolves by 2000 he wrote another Paper by the way the book and the paper Are linked in the description box you Can check the link I’ve got you the Paper in 2000 came out and was like Actually my initial interpretation of What is happening here was incorrect
It’s not so much that there aren’t Leaders in a social network there’s not So much that there’s not a leader Inherent let’s call it Alpha for the Sake of this conversation in a network Of wolves but they are not fight waiting For this role of alpha what he took back Was that there is no fight to be an Alpha within a pack of wolves that is What he rescinded however it’s true that He doubles down in this paper and says That there is an inherent Alpha role in Parents a male and a female being an Alpha over their pups that he Demonstrates through his studies that That is inherently existing and that’s Really where it’s key is that he is Implying in that particular paper that We’re speaking on David Mack implies That the role of alpha goes to the male And female parents inherently that by Nature of the equation they are Dominating the group not that they have Fought for it and therefore they have it It is just an assumed role that Everybody follows in line with what he’s Talking about with dominance the thing With this is that again researchers have Not taken back dominance this is Something that the positive Reinforcement Community gets incorrect All the time he is correct the reason He’s confused about the argument is Because historically the positive
Reinforcement Community has not conveyed The fact of reality of dominance and Alpha number one David Meck did say that He maintains the role or the word Alpha In his literature he just attributes it And interprets it differently depending On in what context you’re reading or What text you’re reading he’s going to Interpret it one way in 1970 and then by The time 2000s roll around he takes that Back and says actually I’ve interpreted Incorrectly it’s this way now when it Comes to dominance the thing is is Dominance has a viable place in Ethological behavior and ethological Sciences dominance is a thing that Scientists talk about by the way not Just when it comes to dogs not just when It comes to wolves when it comes to Animals we use this term dominance so The reason he’s confused is because we Have positive reinforcement trainers out There who are incorrectly stating that Dominance is bad or dominance is not Real and that’s just not true when you Talk to a scientific researcher they’re Very clear that indeed there is a Concept of dominance occurring now the Problem is that alpha dog trainers are Misinterpreting what dominance is they Have almost bastardized the word that is The argument what they say is that and Again all my resources are linked down Below what they say is that dominance is
Primarily revolved around who maintains A resource in a group so who is Maintaining the resource so for this we Can talk about a parent since he wants To talk about moms and babies let’s talk About moms and babies a mom is going to Control when a baby sleeps where a baby Sleeps when a baby eats what a baby eats A mom is going to control when a baby Wakes up and when a baby goes anywhere To see Grandma Mom controls the Resources of baby but to imply that baby Is aware or has the ability to Fathom That hierarchical structure is incorrect They simply do not have the ability at That age and in this case dogs do not Have the ability their structural brains Literally are incapable of understanding The hierarchical structure as they say It does so what they can observe what Dogs are aware of is consequences they Are aware of cause and effect right mom Has access to food she puts down the Bowl therefore cause an effect right I Eat they are able to understand a Sequential event but what they are not Going to necessarily be able to Understand is the desire or the need to Dominate a resource this is is the Difference between higher order and Lower order thinking and what we need to Examine here would be comparative Cognition the thing is is that Comparative cognition the field of
Comparative cognition within science is A very complicated field again it comes Back down to what he’s talking with Purely positive you cannot pick an idea And put it strictly in one box you Cannot pick a concept a topic and put it Just in one label just in one box and so Is true when it comes to dominance you Cannot say that dominance is purely a Lower order thing or purely a higher Order thing it can be both the Difference is that the dogs don’t have Both so to imply that dogs are going to Be able to be aware that there is this Concept of dominance and then therefore They need to strive to obtain it that is A higher order thing however are they Able to observe the sequential events of That occur as a result of the phenomena Of dominance yes now I know I’ve just Like we’re word vomited a whole lot on You in a short period of time if you are Seriously interested in delving into the Idea of dominance and what the Scientific literature knows about it I Did an entire video on it two years ago Yes the video is a little greeny the Content and the resources are still There I have linked it in the Description box below as well all of the Citations are listed they are not just Like Joe’s dog training Journal by the Way there are scientific papers they are Peer-reviewed papers they are reviews
The thing is is that when we’re thinking About scientific literature there is an Argument there is a debate on the Importance of dominance and dominance Theory within even the scientific Ethological perspective yes the thing is Is that it’s sort of like the idea of Global warming where 97 of scientists Are all on the same page and then you Have this three percent that are arguing The global warming is not true so it’s Like that is basically true for Dominance Theory as well the vast Majority I don’t think there’s a Statistical number so let’s just say Arbitrarily 97 percent of people 97 of The scientific researchers and you know Academic field agree that the dogs are Not aware of dominance and are not Striving to obtain it because that would Be a higher order concept however there Is a small minority a three percent Let’s say that are on the flip side that Are like they’re certainly on it in fact They think it’s a personality trait that Dominances a personality trait that one Has like planning and like being you Know organized that they in the same way That one is boisterous they are also Dominant that is the flip side but it is The minority opinion so here’s the thing It’s an opinion yes it’s not scientific Fact so can you be on that Minority end If you want to place yourself in that
Minority opinion my friend go for it Like do it knock yourself out and also Be aware that you’re in the minority and It’s probably best for you to tell your 300 000 followers that you’re in the Minority as well it’s probably best for You to tell everybody hey ninety seven Percent of researchers don’t think that The dogs are aware of dominance but Three percent do and that’s the sign I’m Going with so it’s a matter of opinion You pick your side that is how the Argument should be presented not Necessarily like I don’t know where this Is coming from it’s a crimply mystery I Just don’t know my friend I don’t really Care if you call Dom I don’t really care What we call it let’s come up with Another name purely positive folks let’s Come up with another another name for The behavior of a dog saying I’m gonna Do whatever I want with you human Okay I Love a good philosophical debate about What is in a word I could go on a whole Video just about how do we come up with Words so yeah let’s call it you’re right Like you’re right it doesn’t matter what We call it we could call it blue we Could call it yellow like the word Itself doesn’t matter let’s call it what We want but Your interpretation where you say what Do we call it when a dog says I’m going To do whatever I want with you human
That my friend Is implying intent that my friend is Implying function that is unscientific What we can see and again this is where Positive reinforcement also goes awry Okay positive reinforcement Community is Equally guilty of this where they see a Behavior and they’re like oh my God he Yawned it’s stress and it’s like Behavior is objective always it is not Until You give context to the behavior you see The behavior repeated in a series of Reoccurring moments it is not until There’s ample information around the Behavior that we can start to interpret What it means but the thing is is that Interpretation is always opinion Interpretation of behavior is always our Best guess and so when you say what do We say about a dog who is just saying I’m going to do whatever I want with you Human what you are saying is that when You look at dogs you see that dogs are Asking I’m gonna do whatever I want with You that is opinion that is an Interpretation that is one Interpretation and you can ask 500 Different trainers and they’re going to Give you 500 different interpretations Of that behavior it’s not aggression I I Know Dominus aggression are totally Different things thank you yes yes yes Yes yes and more yes I’m so glad he said
That one million percent dominance and Aggression are not the same thing facts That is like objective truth in the Scientific literature no matter where You are in the scale of opinions you Agree that aggression and dominance are Not the same thing thank you for saying That all these positive reinforcement uh People write books and they say it’s Discredited I don’t care if Patricia McConnell says it’s discredited that Doesn’t matter to me Patricia McConnell Isn’t day to day with 20 dogs over the Last 15 years she’s writing books and She’s writing articles she’s not in the Trenches none of these people are but There is a behavior of the dog saying Yeah I’m going to do with you whatever I Want I call it dominant you call it something Else but let’s agree that the behavior Happens no we can’t agree that the Behavior happens what you’re talking About is not objective fact it is Opinion it is interpretation it is one Perception of an event so we can’t all Agree that the perception is occurring Because we all have different lenses we Don’t agree that behavior happens we Don’t agree on anything you haven’t been Around enough dogs or perhaps you’ve Been around your perspective of dogs so Long that it’s the only perspective you Can see and this is kind of what you
Were saying of like well they’re they’re All reading books they’re not in the Trenches they’re not seeing the dogs you Know a dozen times a day it’s like you Have a cognitive bias my friend and Until you’re aware of that until you’re Aware that you are only looking through One set of eyes and you only are Operating in your mind alone and that There are other perspectives outside of Yours that are seeing things differently Interpreting things differently until You can see that you are not living to Your fullest potential and you’re not Serving the animals in their and their Guardians in their fullest potential Either read some books Dog wise is a great Publishing Company All Positive Dog resolve all purely Positive so Cian company there is plenty of other Literature that has nothing to do with Dog wise that’s one of the reasons why I Prefer to just go straight to the Peer-reviewed paper I prefer to go Straight to the scientific literature Instead of doing the work around it’s Like a game of telephone right and That’s basically what happened by the Way with this whole idea of dominance And Alpha and the whole confusion that He’s talking about happened because of The game of telephone someone said Something to someone who said something
To someone who said something to someone And by the way into the no fact was Credible no fact was true and so Sometimes our positive reinforcement Books and content and conferences are Like a big game of telephone and it Loses the Integrity of the research it Loses the Integrity of the information That is why my entire channel is Premised around going straight to the Source and just reading the peer review Paper and talking with this researcher Straight on they always go You should read more books you should go To more conferences you should go to More online schools it’s all learning It’s not dogs it’s like some dude or Some company has been drilling oil wells And knows how to do it and has the art And the science of doing and then some Guy gets out of college and goes oh You’re doing it all wrong oh have you Ever dug an oil well the guy in the the College kid goes well no but I learned In school how to you don’t know anything They know nothing It’s like Academia versus the real world That’s what this is I actually Actually same ideas just regurgitated in 1500 different Warriors it can be very Repetitive it can have a very US versus Them mentality and for those reasons I Have decided to not maintain some of the Certifications that they promote like
The cpdt I don’t maintain that Certification because of that click Mentality and a lot of times even their Continued education when they talk about Like the CEUs the CEUs are all within Their realm of what they consider to be Credible and it’s like there’s an entire World of very important literature Occurring that doesn’t have anything to Do with their little clicky unit and so He’s right but like in many cases we see Dog trainers that get stuck in the Learning realm and this is coming from Someone by the way who is a Self-professed nerd this is coming Straight from the words of anyone who Has been on my channel knows I love to Read I love to learn I love to study I Love to everything and I understand that That’s all for naught if you can’t apply It practically with dogs it’s all for Naught if you can’t transfer that Information to Guardians right so I Agree with him but the thing is the Thing that I disagree with him is that He says Academia versus real world it’s Not an or it’s not a verse it’s an ant It’s a both you need Academia and real World you need Academia and studying Dogs observationally he talks about how Like a lot of these researchers are just In their lab they’re not actually dog Trainers and the thing is is obviously Like that’s how science Works bruh do
You think every single medical doctor Who does surgery is also going to labs And doing all of the experiments as well Like our world works that way there is Of course certain demographics there are Of course certain individuals who do Both the research and the the Practical Implementation with the individual at Home there are of course unicorns in the Universe that do both but they are Seldom they are rare but the way the World works is that there’s a difference Between the people doing the research And the people implementing the reason We have both is so that the researchers Can stay objective the researchers can Say look we’ve done all this here’s the Facts now it’s your job to interpret it We can give suggestions we can give Opinions on what we think the Interpretations of these facts should be But really y’all out are on the ground Floor doing the work you all need to be Interpreting it is a both conversation Station you saying like oh they’re all The researchers are all in the labs the Researchers are all writing they’re not Actually with the dogs that’s not the Gotcha that you think it is that’s just How the world works that’s just how Science works And they like they think it’s crazy that I that I call them out on their answer Is read more books you know where I
Learned more 15 years of having Thousands and thousands and thousands of Dogs on my property and going to Thousands of home and teaching thousands Of group classes and doing thousands of Privates out here with aggressive dogs Again you have a cognitive bias my Friend and I’m not trying to discredit Your observations because those are Important again this goes back to and When you’re speaking with this when You’re saying like oh I studied I’ve Worked with a thousand dogs and Thousands of classes and blah blah blah Blah blah you’re revealing a lot of your Values which I can really appreciate and Sharing publicly that you believe in Practical implementation rather than Just theoretical and that is beautiful I Value you giving that opinion publicly Because I don’t think enough people do And I wish that you would say that it’s An opinion right I wish that you would Confront that that’s it doesn’t mean That you’re right it means that that’s Your perspective and just because it’s Your perspective doesn’t mean that it’s Better or less than right so I hear a Lot of conversations in the dog training World around you know the difference Between practical and theoretical Learning and again it’s not an or thing It’s a both thing it’s not that you need
Theoretical or practical it’s that you Need theoretical and practical like of Course right so that said there are Going to be certain individuals certain Personality types that are going to lean And naturally gravitate towards more one Or the other that doesn’t mean one Person is better than the other Personally I’ve always my entire life Apart from even dog training I’ve always Been able to Fathom Concepts Theoretically way better than when I was Actually in the trenches doing it real Live and this is because when I was Doing anything whether that was learning How to change a tire or when I was Trying to solve a math problem on paper Or when I was doing anything even Training a dog I became anxious I would Over analyze my heart rate would Accelerate I felt my body go into a Fight fighter freeze I became anxious And I cannot operate safely and I cannot Think critically in that state and even To this day if I’m reading a book and a Person is laying out a story an Anecdotal example of whatever Theory They’re talking about that is harder for Me to understand the anecdotal story is Harder for me to understand than and if They just said the principal outright And said this is the theory I can Understand that theory better again that Doesn’t make me less than you because
You learn by practical implementation That doesn’t make you a better trainer That doesn’t make you a better person or A better study or a better whatever it Makes you different and that’s okay That’s all right but to discredit an Entire philosophy or practice on Studying theoretically and then going Out and implementing to say that that is Inaccurate or unjust is just naive all Those ladies I was talking about by the Way in these conferences and read these Books and comment I mean they all read The same stuff they all and they They have no clients If clients call them they don’t call Them back because there’s no real Solutions and now people can get on YouTube and they can go oh well I saw This one guy just help this dog and he Met his dog And he’s better now and they’re like no No you have to go 50 feet away and treat Your dog YouTube is the final nail in the coffin Yeah this is an interesting thing Because he’s absolutely right as I Mentioned before the positive Reinforcement world is very clicky and They’re all reading the same books and They’re all like yeah yeah yes yes and More yes and I would argue that YouTube Is sensationalizing and dramaticizing Dog aggression and dog behavior yes it
Is making it like a show and again as a Matter of opinion some people are gonna Like that some people aren’t personally I don’t see it as a show it that to me Showing dogs get into a fight and then You standing in the middle and Separating them is the equivalent to Watching like real housewives flip a Table in the middle of a restaurant like Is drama it’s Snappy it’s you know you Can throw some amazing music behind it And if you find that entertaining I mean Go for it like go off you know but that Doesn’t necessarily mean that everybody Wants that that doesn’t necessarily mean That it’s even required one does not Need to have a Big Show and flip a dog Overnight into 22 minutes we can Condense this dog into being an abiding Dog into a dog that’s on the floor in a Down stay in 22 minutes like that is so Sh we have to assume that our audience Are smarter than that again I guess That’s just how I’m operating again out Of Integrity this is a matter of opinion Right but I assume that Guardians are More intelligent than people who are Watching the videos for the Sensationalism right I assume that the People watching my content especially Are critical thinkers and are going to Be able to see you stand in the middle Of two dogs and split them up in the Middle of a dog fight with you just
Being like a macho man and are gonna say Hmm Is that real reality is that needed Is that drama or is that what’s actually Healthy our critical thinkers are going To be able to think about that and the Other thing is is that like I just think It’s worth saying that credibility Cannot be reflected by numbers of views Credibility and for that matter efficacy So how many clients a person a trainer Has and how many results they’re getting Is not going to be reflected by how many Views they have on a YouTube video I’m Sorry no it is naive to assume that and Again we need to assume that the Audience is critical thinkers and that They know that we have to go in assuming That the world is not made of stupid People that the world is made up of Really actually intelligent people that Are going to be able to fish through What is actual effectiveness And what is something that has gotten a Lot of views those are two different Things it’s done yeah I’m not going to Read any more books uh I have a lot of Books when I started the business I read Books Um now I train dogs that’s it when I Started the business I read a lot of Books and now I train dogs thank you for Sharing your opinion that is not how Many people are operating because many People are operating with the idea that
There’s no way for me to know everything Many people trainers and otherwise are Operating out of it there’s no way in my Lifetime that I will ever know Everything there is to know about dog Behavior but I can certainly try and I Can certainly try to continue my Education I can work with dogs Practically and continue my education I can work with dogs practically and Make observations and have epiphanies And have beliefs about what I’m seeing In dogs and also continue to read books Continue to read peer review papers Continue to study continue to learn I Would argue that money is better well Spent with someone who appreciates what They don’t know then with someone who Assumes they know everything and with That if you guys enjoyed this video you Guys can hit like consider subscribing If you enjoy a nerdier approach check Out these other videos and I’ll see you Guys next week